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Cia Parker's avatar

https://concreteconspiracy.substack.com/p/everything-you-need-to-know-about

What evidence do you have that what is described and linked here is not true? You’d just rather ignore it to maintain an irrational and unfounded belief that no one would do such things?

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TGGP (on GNXP)'s avatar

Your link claims that things like "cheese pizza" are actually pedophile code words. I don't claim that pedophiles don't exist, but I deny your conspiracy site's theory of code words connected to a pizza restaurant.

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Cia Parker's avatar

You’re saying that you’ve heard every conversation that every pedophile has ever engaged in and are willing to swear that none has ever used these words to describe their illegal proclivities? And I’m the irrational one?

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TGGP (on GNXP)'s avatar

No, I didn't say that, you are wrong again. But you are indeed irrational.

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You denied that code words connected to pizza (not specifically Comet Pizza) are used to refer to trafficked children. What is your evidence that these words are never so used?

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TGGP (on GNXP)'s avatar

Comet Pizza is an actual pizza restaurant, something even your link would not deny. As such, "cheese pizza" is a phrase they would have to use when referring to actual... cheese pizza. It's unfit to be used as code for something else.

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Cia Parker's avatar

Your response is irrational. Pedophilia and child trafficking for several purposes are rampant. There is a lot of evidence that Comet Pizza was involved in this, including paintings on the wall depicting children being raped and murdered. But it was only one dot in an immense web. One of the PG emails was from one sender to a group, saying How many are coming? We only have one slice of pizza and need to know how thinly to slice it.

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TGGP (on GNXP)'s avatar

If I'm operating a business which is a front for child trafficking, how should I paint the walls? Not with evidence of the actual criminal operation I'm fronting for. That's irrational. And I see you're unable to parse jokes.

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The paintings were not in an area accessible to the general public and were painted over when PG became news. Photos of them are still available.

Was it a joke, or using the code word which you deny has ever been used in relation to child trafficking? Give your evidence. Also your rebuttal of all the other evidence. Why did hundreds of well-known people fly to Epstein’s Orgy Island? Was Epstein a great conversationalist? Why was Prince Andrew thrown out of the royal family? Do you deny that hundreds of children have been rescued from child trafficking operations?

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TGGP (on GNXP)'s avatar

Law enforcement is aware of the paintings and there have been no arrests... because it's not actually evidence of child trafficking.

I am not making a denial about any pedophile anywhere using any particular word, I am denying that Comet Pizza was not referring to actual pizza when they said "pizza" because they are an actual pizza restaurant.

Epstein threw a lot of money around and hence was very well connected. I used to regularly read Edge.org which he financially supported. That wasn't a front for anything, but it did have a lot of famous intellectuals associated with it and he liked to associate with them even though nobody took him seriously as a thinker. And while his case has convinced a lot of people that various pedophile conspiracy theories are true, my understanding is that he was never into pre-pubescents. He's thus more like an extreme version of a "dirty old man" than something as fringe and pathological as an actual pedophile (whose rarity & taboo status makes it unlikely for them to be running powerful conspiracies). I do find plausible the claim that Epstein was, as Eric Weinstein put it, "a construct". His claimed source of money was finance, but he didn't seem to be doing much actual trading, and his business didn't seem to have any trouble during the crash of 2008 despite him being locked up https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/how-did-jeffrey-epstein-make-his-fortune.html

Read that link and you'll see people trying to seriously understand a case (an actual criminal case rather than an imagined one) rather than going on about code words and symbolism.

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Cia Parker's avatar

Law enforcement fails to pursue innumerable crimes for which there is good evidence. While primitive paintings of sexual crimes and murder are not proof, they are suggestive. What would be an acceptable reason for having them at Comet?

Alefantis had a photo of an empty, windowless room on his Instagram labeled “room.” Like all the many suggestive photos, taken down (but preserved in screen shots). He said Comet didn’t have a basement, but had said in an interview that Comet kept tomatoes from its farm in the basement. It also owned a building next door with a basement. On his Instagram were many photos of what appeared to be trafficked children. An infant with thousand dollar bills in its mouth. A child with hands taped down to the table. Small specialty coffins. What a sense of humor.

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