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ric leczel's avatar

wow man, so amazing. my horse Brandy was a stallion. I was 14. here's a post I wrote about the majesty of the horse, and how man rebelled in some cases.

https://open.substack.com/pub/riclexel/p/no-more-automation?r=bcx26&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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Antonio Regalado's avatar

Shakespeare has a phrase which sounds like man is a horse extender.

"Look, what a horse should have he did not lack,

Save a proud rider on so proud a back."

https://poets.org/poem/venus-and-adonis-lo-forth-copse

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TGGP (on GNXP)'s avatar

I was under the impression that humans were getting work out of oxen before they domesticated horses. Is that incorrect?

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Razib Khan's avatar

please seen part 2

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Zachary L. Zavidé's avatar

Fascinating - I was walking past Boston Common’s Civil War memorial last night and it was to the first African American volunteer contingent. It was late at night and looked again; the Black infantrymen led by a man on a horse, who was white.

It stuck me as a curious sight (it was dark and the monument is difficult to parse as it is) but as though Calvary officer was there to keep order .

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Zachary L. Zavidé's avatar

Just googled it - the colonel was Robert Gould Shaw.

https://www.nps.gov/boaf/learn/historyculture/shaw.htm

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Michael Magoon's avatar

Yes, he was portrayed in the movie “Glory” - a must see.

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nicole segre's avatar

Pedantic note: we lay down in the past and in the present or future we lay plates on a table. To rest we lie down.

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David Wyman's avatar

I was brought up that way and still use it reflexively as correct, find other usages ignorant-sounding. Ill brought-up and all that. But I have also come to appreciate that this is purely dialectical on my part, and that variant usages from my youth (I am 71) were not only more acceptable than my New England aunts and teachers would allow, but that even standard usage has moved on.

Fight the rearguard action by all means. Preserving understanding between historical eras is aided by slowing rates of change. But it is best to know that we are not really pedants, we are dinosaurs. And no school team has a dinosaur as it's mascot, I don't think.

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Michael Magoon's avatar

Very interesting research on the domestication of the horse.

What do you think that it tells about the likely date and location of Herding societies?

Do you think herding started among Agrarian or Horticultural societies or something else?

https://frompovertytoprogress.substack.com/p/herding-societies

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Razib Khan's avatar

i'm assuming agrarian. they would be more concentrated in mixed woodland zone where there would be fallow land for herds?

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Michael Magoon's avatar

Thanks for the reply.

Yes, this makes sense.

Do you know of any research on specifically which Agrarian society actually did this?

I am very interested in the emergence of new society types and have written about them in my Substack column:

https://frompovertytoprogress.substack.com/p/all-of-human-history-in-one-graphic

https://frompovertytoprogress.substack.com/p/why-you-need-to-know-about-society

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