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Kushal's avatar

Brilliant Razib!!! Loved this line "Where India absorbs and integrates, the West consumes and digests."

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JJ's avatar

Good article, though I do find this part a bit unsatisfying:

"Only in India does the ancient Greek Galenic medical tradition survive, the Yūnānī school. Muslims transmitted this school from the West to India after 1200 AD, where it survived and flourished long after dying out in its homeland. This is a case where India’s integrative instinct, culturally appropriating from another tradition, preserved ancient knowledge while openly acknowledging its origin. In contrast, indirect Indian influence on Christianity through Neoplatonism or the modeling of Muslim madrassas on Buddhist viharas are appropriations uncredited and unknown. Where India absorbs and integrates, the West consumes and digests."

I do not find these examples very good comparisons. You use a theological comparison for Christianity and Islam, then for lack of a better term, materialistic knowledge for Hinduism. Is there an example where you could compare how Hinduism acknowledges and "integrates" theological concepts from other religions? To the counter of the example of the theoretical unacknowledged Hindu influence on Christianity, there have been some scholars who say there was a theoretical unacknowledged "Christian" influence in Hinduism during the height of the Bhakti movement/era in South India due to the Nestorian Christians living there. The Hindu example you use of "integration" (as opposed to the consuming) seems a more physical/practical knowledge, i.e. medicine. Greek medicine system may have even reached earlier to India via the Indo-Greek kingdoms, then when Muslims encountered India, it further reinforced that medical knowledge being from the "Greeks". But why is that surprising that Hindus would acknowledge their practical knowledge from where they feel it originated? This is not to cast anyone in a bad light, if anything instead of integration, I think it just shows great scholarship on Hindus to document where they feel the knowledge came from. Hindu Indians were collaborating across the middle east with other scholars in the pursuit of knowledge, first with the Zoroastrian, Manichean, and Nestorian Persians, possibly the Greeks, and then later with the Muslims in the "House of Wisdom" You say Hinduism gives credit to the medical knowledge, but records in the west and the Catholic church openly acknowledged their knowledge received from the "pagan" Greeks, and later the western "enlightenment' acknowledges their gleaning knowledge from contributions of the Islamic medical scientists, Another example, I could be wrong, but I think there are Islamic records of gaining knowledge from Hindus/India, for example what the West used to call "Arabic" Numerals, the Islamic world called "Hindu" numerals. Even the great Patriarch of Nestorians, Timothy, mentions the origin of numbers from India. Great article Razib, a lot to think over, but just this one part I feel examples with more direct comparisons, i.e. theology to theology, just would make the point better.

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