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Y.D. Robinson's avatar

In the World Cultural Map, I would extend "the West" to all or part of Latin America. Certainly Argentina, Chile, southern Brazil, and the like, as they're similar to Spain, Portugal, and Italy culturally speaking.

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David Gress's avatar

Excellent, stimulating, and persuasive. I knew about Henrich, but not Rubin and Sheidel.

In his fascinating autobiography, "Journeys of the Mind: A Life in History" (2023), Peter Brown says this about his "The World of Late Antiquity" (1971):

It "would not be a story of decline and fall, followed by catastrophic barbarian invasion ... Rather, it would be a study of change and continuity in a deeply rooted and sophisticated society."

He can say this, over 50 years after he wrote "World," because that brilliant book focuses on the south and east of the ancient Mediterranean world, where, as you point out, civilizational collapse is less evident. (Although it is very evident, for example, in Asia Minor and Cyprus, where urban civilization seems to have ceased completely by the mid-seventh century. Brown is not an archaeologist).

In his more recent "The Rise of Western Christendom" (2nd ed. 2003), which, as the title shows, focuses on the West, Brown acknowledges the evidence of collapse, but tends to temper those acknowledgments with insistent claims such as that "a long and opulent Roman past still had a place in the present." Again, he is not an archaeologist.

In an illuminating passage, he remarks that his own deep interest in the ancient Near East stems from his Irish Protestant background, because "the Church of Ireland maintained an intensely biblical version of Protestantism" centered on reading the Old Testament in Hebrew and the New in Greek.

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