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CA Spears's avatar

Razib, this was profound.

I am not of "immigrant stock" myself, but my wife is an immigrant, who chose America. She could have easily went to the UK or Canada, but she wanted to be here - I think her mindset was similar to your father's, as she also came here for graduate school and never left.

Being African Americans, and having lived in several nations abroad in Europe and Asia, I always try to express to other black people here, that things can always improve, but life is not so bad. I have seen far worse. I have experienced far worse discrimination abroad, with zero ability to appeal to law or "moral authority" to aid me. I still had an American passport, education credentials and work experience to protect me. The worst situations were not mind, but how poor black and South Asian migrants and laborers were treated. While I was overprice ex-pat bars complaining about how I was not treated exactly like white Western expats, they were languishing in 6 people to a room in apartment made for 1 or 2 people, trying to save as much as possible to send back home, working 12 hours a day, living with no AC, etc. They would have been overjoyed to be treated like me.

Yes, but for the threat of violence, I understood exactly how my grandfather grew up clearly, and that also informed me how much had changed. After living in 5 nations outside the U.S., I can say without hesitation that there is no nation that I have been to, let alone lived in, where the standard of living and potential personal and economic growth is better for someone who looks like me.

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Walter Sobchak, Esq.'s avatar

Good work Razib. My mother emigrated from Soviet union in 1935. My father in law left Vienna in November 1938. I have always thought that any American who does feel a profound gratitude for being able to live in this country was an ignoramus and a fool.

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